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Gabriel Wocker · December 2, 2023

Hello all.

We will be changing the date of this event to Saturday to accommodate the most people. The new date is tomorrow, Dec 2 nd.

As per the original plan, let’s aim to meet at the Donner Creek Brewing company for lunch and aim to head out to the trail at 1pm. The brewery opens at 11am and we should be there soon after that.

At this stage we have positive responses from the following:

Nick Kohlmeyer

Gabriel Wocker

myself (Robert Dingli)

I’ll probably take the L322 and so we shouldn’t be seeking too much trouble

Please feel free to call me for any issues and let me know directly if you intend to join us and aren’t on this list

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November 29, 2023

I am happy to change the MORG day to Saturday to accomodate Nick. Is there anyone who intends to attend who cannot change to Saturday?

brandn3w · November 11, 2023

The plan is to meet at the Trailhead around 10am. I’ll be leaving Cupertino at 7am. I’ll have a radio tuned to 146.460

Jethro · November 10, 2023

Permit purchased. We will be there this year.

brandn3w · November 10, 2023

Here is a pin to the trail head on google maps It’s the Corral Hollow OHV Trailhead

https://maps.app.goo.gl/fwUxQfQUhkYrtcwH7?g_st=ic

Gaia GPX trail to and from the campsite are attached.

Corral_Hollow_trail_return.gpx Corral_Hollow_trail_to_campground.gpx

lutz · November 10, 2023

I’m thinking of heading up to Corral Hollow for one night this Saturday, returning Sunday. I would aim to leave the South Bay early and it usually takes about 3.5 hours from Cupertino to get to the trail head. From there it’s about 1.5-2 hours to the campsite. I plan to run the trail anti clockwise from the Bear Valley end.

This is a relatively easy trail and all Rovers will be capable. I’ve taken my L322 to this campsite many times. Minor scratches are possible depending on the foliage growth during the season. There are a couple of places where you would have to be careful negotiating rocks in the trail.

Come and share the most magical sunsets I have ever witnessed.

I’ll check the forum for any interest but you are welcome to call or text my phone for details

Robert

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Motobrewer · November 2, 2023

On 10/21/2023 at 4:03 PM, Motobrewer said:

Thanks to everyone who came out. Great day with two of my favorite things, LR owners and beer.

Thanks Paul. We had a wonderful time.

Mr.BlueSky · October 27, 2023

On 10/23/2023 at 9:20 PM, DHappel said:

I assume there will be significant cleaning of the RRC engine bay and trans tunnel while you have access. I would expect nothing less.

I have previously cleaned the frame and applied a coating of POR-15 chassis black paint while the body was lifted off the frame for body mount replacement.

now that the frame is super easy to access, I plan to sand back to a solid paint surface and then coat in Eastwood 2 pack classic paint. I’ve also got some Eastwood interior frame paint to apply.

Expect nothing less

So...Yoder · October 23, 2023

Rover gearbox and transfer case removal.

I used a method of rachet straps and a trolley jack to lower the transmission - tcase assembly into my creeper trolley. From there I jacked up the front of the vehicle and then slid the transmission out the side.

Lastly, I cleaned up the transmission in a hope that it will find a second life elsewhere.

LR4HD · October 21, 2023

Engine comparison

The L33 is slightly shorter and narrower overall but 2” taller.

SplurGn · October 21, 2023

RRC engine out

edit - apologies for the upside down photos. The forum web interface wants to import them upside down and doesn’t appear to give me the option to rotate them

So...Yoder · October 21, 2023

The engine came with a new oil pan but I have found a more compact option which I will eventually fit. The RRC has the steering damper to the rear of the tie rod which may interfere with the current pan. I will also have to mount the engine as low as possible to provide clearance for the LS truck inlet manifold. I will has the option to fit an LS6 car manifold to save height but I would rather avoid the expense and CA smog referee arguments.

The next big issue will be clearance for the exhaust manifolds and down pipe. The Rover frame rails have a 635 mm / 25” separation. The existing manifolds place the down pipes a little bit less than this, but the Rover engine is offset about 40 mm to the left (driver) side. This provides room for the driveshaft on the passenger side. I will probably have to move the engine centreline towards the vehicle center by about 10-20 mm. I will be fabricating my own engine mounts using Chev small block rubber / urethane mounts and pre cut fabricator steel plates. The SBC mounts will bolt directly to the RRC frame mounts.

So...Yoder · October 21, 2023

The first step was to do the packaging work, and for this I needed a fully dressed engine. I like the quality of brackets from ICT Billet and purchased alternator, power steering and tensioner mounts from them. The AC will be the standard GM unit in the standard location. I purchased a GM 160A alternator and Camaro PS pump. ICT Billet have every mounting option available. I opted for a compact solution that should avoid the Rover steering box.

So...Yoder · October 21, 2023

The D2 LT230 was the obvious choice for a transfer case since I had a spare anyway. I wanted to rebuild it with all the best parts from Ashcroft, but finally decided to just get a fully rebuilt unit from them. It was going to be about £1200 for the parts or £1900 for the rebuilt unit.
I opted for a 1.003 high ratio, sleeved casing for the intermediate shaft, Ashcroft ATB center diff (which is still lockable), 300M high strength intermediate and output shafts and a D2 front flange to take a double cardan driveshaft. I have a D2 selector cable.

SplurGn · October 21, 2023

As a bonus, Kevin gave me his D2 ZF4HP24 transmission that he had rebuilt only recently. On top of this, I have a spare 4HP24 transmission from my D2 parts vehicle. While I would have likes to have upgraded to a GM 6 speed, the ZF gearbox is going to be a far cheaper and easier alternative.

Furthermore, the CA smog rules dictate that you must use the transmission from the donour vehicle or the original transmission (for pre OBD2 vehicles). I am prepared to argue that the 4HP24 is sufficiently close to the RRC 4HP22 as to qualify as the original. The L33 only came out with the GM4L60E 4 speed for which there are no adaptors available for the transfer case end.

There is a company that makes a D2 LS swap kit which has a bell housing and flex plate adaptor. Note that I have not had a response from this company as of Oct 2023 and am looking into a custom solution.

The ZH 4HP24 was ZF, and arguably Europe’s, best transmission back in the day it was used in V12 BMWs, Porsche 911 and 928 and many other applications. It is rated to 450 Nm / 350 ftlb of torque. The L33 is rated to 355 ftlb.

I will need to run an aftermarket transmission ECU and am planning to get a Compushift eventually.

So ZF 4HP24 it will be

So...Yoder · October 21, 2023

And more I got

I was following the D2 LS swap build progress of fellow club member, Kevin, and found that he had built up an LS 5.3 but subsequently went with a 6.2. The 5.3 had been professionally build to a very high standard with lots of upgrades, internal and external. He was wanting to sell it and I couldn’t resist the opportunity.

The engine is an L33 from a 2006 Silverado. This is the high output 5.3 version with the aluminium block, high compression pistons and high flowing heads similar to the LS6. As a late LS Gen 3 engine, it has some of the upgrades of the Gen 4 engines including beefier connecting rods and fully floating pins. The engine has been rebuilt with new pistons and a 0.020 overbore. The valve train is all new with a mild cam upgrade.

Mr.BlueSky · October 21, 2023

Hello everyone, it’s time to start documenting my latest project.

I am starting with a 1991 Range Rover Classic Great Divide Edition. I purchased this vehicle as a cheap Rover for my daughter, Charlotte, but subsequently fell in love with this older vehicle.

The engine and transmission actually drove really well and I enjoyed the fact that it had standard suspension and a relatively light overall weight.

But I wanted more

Motobrewer · October 20, 2023

Nida and I are planning to come along for a couple of hours.

El Chapomint · October 18, 2023

Deleted plans to head to SCARR in Texas since there was only interest in heading to Moab on this trip.

Participants:

1. Myself D2

2. Michael and Leanne Foster D90

3. Jeff Brown L405

4. Sasha Sher D2

5. Kevin Yankton (heading over from Salt Lake City) D2

Please let me know directly if you are not on this list and want to join

The plan is to stay for 5 nights (April 4 to 9th) proving four full days of adventure in and around Moab. There will still be 1.5 - 2 days of driving to get there and then back again to the Bay Area.

We will do a combination of easy and tough trails. We will have room for passengers who have less capable vehicles for the tougher trails.

We have individual bookings at Sun Outdoors Campground (555 South Main St, Moab (435)259-6848). This campground is offering a 33% discount right now if you ask. They do have cabins (communal toilet and shower block) although I was told that I secured the last one. I would be happy to share my cabin with anyone.

Some of the details regarding detailed planning are being discussed on a separate WhatsApp chat. Again, please let me know if you are planning on joining.

Miles, Henry and Theresa will be doing a separate trip to Texas as detailed below

Robert

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jcb · July 9, 2023

I plan to join and will bring my wife, Nida, Jason and the dog. I’ll probably bring the L322 and we will stay at an Airbnb nearby. I plan to do a day run out to Corral Hollow to show Nida one of my favourite campsites.

Andrew Wood · July 9, 2023

Hi Eric. I will join if the trip goes ahead. I’d like to stay at either Dinkey Creek or Camp Edison rather than dispersed camping. I won’t have much time to prep as I’m in Europe this week. I can drive up Friday afternoon and camp for two nights.

Mr.BlueSky · June 20, 2023

There was a question about recovery gear. I will have my full compliment including winch, bubba kinetic rope, ARB snatch strap, hydraulic high lift jack, 6T bottle jack and a single jack stand.

I also have four handheld baofengs and have the external aerial on order. I don’t have a 12V charger but I do have a battery replacement 12V power unit that will work when all the batteries run out.

I don’t know if anyone else is bringing a D2, but I have packed an alternator, starter, most engine bay hoses, engine sensors, fuse box, engine belt, front driveshaft etc

The more I bring, the less I will use. I hope.

Mr.BlueSky · June 20, 2023

11 hours ago, SLOHybrid said:

Gryphon is asking if your son is coming?

Yes, Jason (now 14) will be joining us

Mr.BlueSky · June 18, 2023

Nate from the Dirt Lifestyle YouTube channel is about to share his YT video from his recent Oregon BDR trail trip. This may or may not cover the trails that we will be running but might be interesting to watch for those that have never ventured into this part of the world. The video premieres at 12 noon on Father’s Day 6/18

https://youtu.be/BBj7i9cqy9g

PaulD · June 18, 2023

Hello all.

I’ve decided to bring Disco Stu, the D2. There is just too much stuff in there to transfer to another vehicle. This means that I will have the big water tank with up to 50 litres of water and the 65 litre fridge/freezer. And the small oven, don’t forget the oven.

I’ll also bring a Joolca Hottap hot water system and privacy tent just like Jeff. I’ll bring two 5lb propane bottles and try to fit in a 4 gallon rotopax. I will also have a chainsaw.

I will have plenty of D2 spares I am not sure if there will be any other D2s there but if so, let me know (4086370426) and we should coordinate spares

For fuel stops planning, we will need to assume 12 mpg at absolute best and a useable 22 gallons plus a 4 gallon rotopax for Disco Stu. That equates to just over 300 miles but I would be more comfortable with a -200 mile target with this load

I am definitely going to have to get my rear airbag helper springs working.

Looking forward to seeing you all soon.

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