Gotrovr Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 I am developing a program called "Avoiding Tip Overs". This will be a free clinic to members, and I plan on the first offering at our upcoming October annual gathering Highlights of this program will include but not be limited to the following. 1) Discuss in general the physics and forces at play and how selective modifications negatively affect a vehicles CG and reduce the effective lean angle. My Mechanical Engineering background will prove vital in this regard. 2) Discuss recent tip over examples and contributing circumstances that increase the likelyhood of a tip over. I have first hand experience. 3) Discuss tips to increase situational awareness and specific avoidance techiques to help mitigate potential tip overs. Mainly common sense, but well worth the effort. 4) Discuss and demonstrate possible recovery techiques in the event of a tip over. Again, first had experience with several types of vehicle recoveries including a tip over. My goal is to keep this program to under an hours time span. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandRonB Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Read our minds! With Shrek, then Hulk, just a matter of time for the next! This is needed! Look forward to this especially #4! Perhaps also a blurp in the ideal first aid kit supply to have although not the focus of the trng! Cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROVRMAN2 Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 "TIPSY part II" or was that "TOPSY part II"?BRILLIANT!!!Go for it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astateofmike Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Im in.....Maybe someone can bring a wreck of a rover and drained of all fluids (trailered in) and we can have it tiped over like an acutal situation and then demo the flip onto the wheels... Okay, that will take more than an hour, I am overzealous. But I want to be in this learning group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esteban Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 I'm in also! I want to learn how to avoid situations like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco12 Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 yeah I'm in all "green" rovers in the club should come to this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco2Guy Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 I'm in for sure, especially after missing the winching session last December in Hollister. I like Mike's idea, though I agree that would be longer than an hour session. But if there's any way to make the situation more realistic in training the better prepared you are when it's needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desertcrawler Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Read our minds! With Shrek, then Hulk, just a matter of time for the next! This is needed! Look forward to this especially #4! Perhaps also a blurp in the ideal first aid kit supply to have although not the focus of the trng! Cool! Don't forget Frank! The one who started it all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandRonB Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Oh yeah; the Yellow Defender; not green like Shrek and Hulk; nevertheless, tip over! Good catch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jantiz Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 October is proving to be a busy month for me but I think I can squeeze the first weekend out of my schedule. I'd love to be there as well if the time frame proves doable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutz Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 sounds like a great idea I'll be there for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenmd Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 Will - I'll help out any way you need... just don't ask me to roll The Hulk again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GriffSC Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 pardon my ignorance, but when in October is the annual Hollister event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco2Guy Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 I hope the date is earlier rather than later October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCRover Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 First Weekend in October. Details to come soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotrovr Posted July 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Will - I'll help out any way you need... just don't ask me to roll The Hulk again... just confirm that the lack of tire adhesion on the exposed tree roots played a signicant role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenmd Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 just confirm that the lack of tire adhesion on the exposed tree roots played a signicant role. i have the scars to prove it. perhaps we should also talk about proper packing techniques to keep cargo in place in the event of a roll over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco2Guy Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 First Weekend in October. Details to come soon... Sweet, I'm there for sure! We should try to capture the session on video too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desertcrawler Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 just confirm that the lack of tire adhesion on the exposed tree roots played a signicant role. Technically, wouldn't lack of tire adhesion help prevent a rollover? Like on a sand dune, it is pretty tough to rollover cause your tires slide all the way to the bottom... now if there is something that hangs up the tires at the bottom of that slick tree root, causing you to come to a sudden stop.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotrovr Posted July 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 i have the scars to prove it. perhaps we should also talk about proper packing techniques to keep cargo in place in the event of a roll over. like a train wreck, I have scars to prove that as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotrovr Posted July 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Technically, wouldn't lack of tire adhesion help prevent a rollover? Like on a sand dune, it is pretty tough to rollover cause your tires slide all the way to the bottom... now if there is something that hangs up the tires at the bottom of that slick tree root, causing you to come to a sudden stop.... from my observation, looks like his tire slipped off the top of a root, like falling off the edge of a table, sudden shift in CG, then snap role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenmd Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 from my observation, looks like his tire slipped off the top of a root, like falling off the edge of a table, sudden shift in CG, then snap role correct, tie that into the opposite front tire being turned inward and - viola! - i have no tire to lean on = automatic roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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