erinw.rrc Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Nice article for your reading pleasure, except for the part about it's possible end of line. http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/04/the-2016-land-rover-lr4-is-the-last-of-a-special-b.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlysonH Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Not sure where that guy is getting his rumors from, but Land Rover would decide what happens to the LR4 and not Range Rover. I love when people get confused by that. Lol. On the other stuff, I suspect he's referring to the LR4 name change back to Discovery which is the only rumor I'm aware of. Also why would they drop the height to that of an Evoke? That's what the Discovery Sport is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erinw.rrc Posted April 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 haha... I saw the Brand name mix up at the end also. Forgot to mention that. I find that a lot of non-Land Rover owners are always getting the Brand name backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdvRovr Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 haha... I saw the Brand name mix up at the end also. Forgot to mention that. I find that a lot of non-Land Rover owners are always getting the Brand name backwards.Yes. My friend was convinced for the longest time that my Classic was a "Range Rover Discovery". Even my insurance, State Farm, has Range Rover as its own make in their system and doesn't have the RR as a model under Land Rover. You'd think they'd get it right of all people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erinw.rrc Posted April 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Yes. My friend was convinced for the longest time that my Classic was a "Range Rover Discovery". Even my insurance, State Farm, has Range Rover as its own make in their system and doesn't have the RR as a model under Land Rover. You'd think they'd get it right of all people. Hopefully the DMV has it right. Out of curiosity I'll have to check our registration on the RR and the RRC to see what the DMV has on record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlysonH Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 "Range Rover Discovery"..Trying to picture what that would even look like, but I can't. I guess the Discovery Sport looks similar to a Range Rover... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volkov Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1031191_2018-land-rover-discovery-spy-shots Here is the replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdvRovr Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Dude....that looks like it's grown quite a bit over the LR4. Looks like the step roof is still (just barely) there, which I thought they dropped in the concept I saw. Looks like the WB has grown quite a bit and it won't be as well suited to harsh environments. Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHappel Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Yes. My friend was convinced for the longest time that my Classic was a "Range Rover Discovery". Even my insurance, State Farm, has Range Rover as its own make in their system and doesn't have the RR as a model under Land Rover. You'd think they'd get it right of all people.I'm pretty sure the DMV has my RRC as a 'Range Rover' for make. And the insurance (Progressive) as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHappel Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 And I'm quite sure the next Disco will be less capable off road. It's the nature of things sadly. Longer, lower, wider works with sportscars but not so much with off-road trucks. Unfortunately Rover is more about pushing more and more luxury (better margins) and less and less capability. Notice what they said the target vehicles would be? X5? That's not an off-road vehicle at all, it's a 'there's some snow on the ground and I want to go the slopes' vehicle. It will be interesting to see if they even offer a transfer case. I'd say 50/50 at best. It's an option on the current model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdvRovr Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 And I'm quite sure the next Disco will be less capable off road. It's the nature of things sadly. Longer, lower, wider works with sportscars but not so much with off-road trucks. Unfortunately Rover is more about pushing more and more luxury (better margins) and less and less capability. Notice what they said the target vehicles would be? X5? That's not an off-road vehicle at all, it's a 'there's some snow on the ground and I want to go the slopes' vehicle. It will be interesting to see if they even offer a transfer case. I'd say 50/50 at best. It's an option on the current model.I had no idea. How sad. BMW doesn't (didn't?) even market the X5 as an SUV. When they launched it they called it a "sports activity vehicle" because it was not intended to be for off-road use at all. And you know what, they're damn good on-road SUVs. Same buddy that called my Classic a Discovery has an X5 4.8is and it's an absolute BEAST. It's on 300-something mm wide tires and accelerates and hugs corners like you wouldn't believe. Yes, I recognize that LR4 buyers are cross-shopping the X5 and 98% of them don't care about a gravel lane, let alone off-roading, but it saddens me to see them losing that core identity. Actually, it's much the same way that as a long-time BMW owner/fanatic, I'm horribly saddened by the direction their product portfolio is going as well. C'est la vie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHappel Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Yup....hate to say it but there's nothing in the portfolio after about 2013 that I'd be interested in. Oh sure, if I hit the lotto I might buy a new RR as an 'executive limo' just to have, but my money would ( and does) go into building up an older rig. If I had to buy a new truck today, I have to say it would be a Rubicon. Of course, then I'd have to learn to drink domestic maxi-brew beers too (shudder). Hey Bubba, pass me another Bud Light! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NThyrring Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 First off, I've been driving my Discovery Sport for three months now. It is definitely a Land Rover. You can tell because of all of the squeaks, rattles, and electrical problems. I have taken it green laneing a few times. It does great on gravel roads and muddy bogs. My son and I spent last Saturday in the Los Padres Forest. It was raining off and on, and the roads were pretty wet. I drove it fast and hard, I never once felt like we were going to lose control. It has plenty of legroom in the backseats and the cargo area is ample. The gas mileage is great and it's very comfortable. It's definitely a car for a soccer dad. As far as it being the future of LR off-road vehicles; no way. Even if it was more aggressive, and had a V-8; in the body shape and interior just don't lend itself to off-roading and/ or modifications. I can't imagine that a larger LR 5 could ever replace the LR 3/4. Finally, I picked up my vanity plates from DMV this morning; it's registered as a LNDR. No mention of Discovery Sport anywhere on the registration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilcrawler Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 I'm really hoping the Defender replacement still has solid axles, but that is probably not going to happen. While I am consistently impressed with the off-road cababilities of the LR3/4, they lack the relative simplicity of a solid axle rig. Plus, it's easier to get more clearance with solid axles, but solid axles died with the DII, and there was no way LR would bring them back with the new Discovery. I can still hope with the Defender. I don't think that the Discovery 5 will hold up when compared to a DI/II, and it will probably be more complex and less capable than an LR4. I think the newer Rovers lack the ability to be truly repaired in the field. IMO they started go downhill with the DII as far as repair-ability in the field. The Discovery 5 will most likely continue that trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFuller Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 What's wrong with Bud Light? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHappel Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 At least I didn't say PBR. I'm old enough to remember that from before it was Hipster. Back then it was just cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wineryrover Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 At least I didn't say PBR. I'm old enough to remember that from before it was Hipster. Back then it was just cheap. Soooooo true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoDavis Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 I'm really hoping the Defender replacement still has solid axles, but that is probably not going to happen.While I am consistently impressed with the off-road cababilities of the LR3/4, they lack the relative simplicity of a solid axle rig. Plus, it's easier to get more clearance with solid axles, but solid axles died with the DII, and there was no way LR would bring them back with the new Discovery. I can still hope with the Defender. I don't think that the Discovery 5 will hold up when compared to a DI/II, and it will probably be more complex and less capable than an LR4. I think the newer Rovers lack the ability to be truly repaired in the field. IMO they started go downhill with the DII as far as repair-ability in the field. The Discovery 5 will most likely continue that trend. I think the trade off between the II and the III is the engine reliability. Kinda a case of pick your poison. I'd take a td5 D2 hands down though. Can't imagine the D5 is going to have any usable sidewall, doubtful it will have the 2 speed tcase, real shame they are killing off the boxy stepped form-factor. As if they don't already have the RR, RRS, DS, RRE that are full of curvy lines. God forbid they make a big heavy square truck! Might try and snag one of the last D4's if they have any around with the HD package, or wait until the soccer moms here get tired of them. I am excited to see what used prices the D4's are going to go for once the warranties start expiring. D3 makes a great work-truck for california. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilcrawler Posted April 17, 2016 Report Share Posted April 17, 2016 Yeah... The DII engine reliability is not the best (trust me I know). In a few years I may pick up a D3 or a D4 as a work/tow vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHappel Posted April 18, 2016 Report Share Posted April 18, 2016 DIIIs are getting pretty cheap. You can find rougher examples for $10K pretty regularly. A really nice one goes about $15K. Showroom perfect low miles every option might get to $20K but that's a real unicorn. On the D4, I'd steer clear of the latest version with the turbo V6 and look for a '12 or '13 (I think it was '14 when the changed motors) with the 5.0. and HD pkg (rear locker) That seems to be the pinnacle of the breed. The V6 makes less power and is more complex. It *might* give more mileage, but I wouldn't count on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAR Posted May 16, 2016 Report Share Posted May 16, 2016 Yup....hate to say it but there's nothing in the portfolio after about 2013 that I'd be interested in. Oh sure, if I hit the lotto I might buy a new RR as an 'executive limo' just to have, but my money would ( and does) go into building up an older rig. If I had to buy a new truck today, I have to say it would be a Rubicon. Of course, then I'd have to learn to drink domestic maxi-brew beers too (shudder). Hey Bubba, pass me another Bud Light!You sly fox Don. I didn't think you were much of beer drinker. Now I know what NOT to get you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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